@uptime said:
Any guesses as to the number of punters taken, and the total dollar amounts (let's say, over the course of a year - and maybe also over the last several years?)
I read this as "printers" the first time around, and now I can't not picture Chris filling the bathroom full of pilfered printers before loading them into the back of an unmarked white van.
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For the remainder of 2018, we expect ColoCrossing to contribute approximately $7 million in revenue and be neutral to adjusted earnings per share before transaction and restructuring costs.
(Just to give some idea about relative scale of drops in the bucket ... or plops in the bucket, ammirite?)
@SmallWeb said:
One of them involves a toilet, a desk lamp and somebody named Chris.
There is no doubt that Chris Fabozzi is the mastermind behind all CC based scams under the leadership of Jon Biloh
actually if they are behind this operation, they seem like petty thieves, a real scam operation is hijacking millions from banks, not collecting $5-$10 from suckers
Based on the current internet population, if they managed to sucker ten bucks each from 0.0001% of the population, they are counting millions.
I would say ethically they are just one rung above robbing robbing unlicensed hoes.
@SmallWeb said:
One of them involves a toilet, a desk lamp and somebody named Chris.
There is no doubt that Chris Fabozzi is the mastermind behind all CC based scams under the leadership of Jon Biloh
actually if they are behind this operation, they seem like petty thieves, a real scam operation is hijacking millions from banks, not collecting $5-$10 from suckers
Based on the current internet population, if they managed to sucker ten bucks each from 0.0001% of the population, they are counting millions.
I would say ethically they are just one rung above robbing robbing unlicensed hoes.
Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars? Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man, twoenty-five hosts at the same time, man. Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do twenty-five hosts at the same time? Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, cause hosts dig a dude with money. Peter Gibbons: Well, not all hosts. Lawrence: Well the kind of hosts that'd exit scam for a dude like me do. Peter Gibbons: Good point. Lawrence: Well what about you now? what would you do? Peter Gibbons: Besides twenty-five hosts at the same time? Lawrence: Well yeah. Peter Gibbons: Nothing. Lawrence: Nothing, huh? Peter Gibbons: I'd relax, I would sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing. Lawrence: Well you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Just take a look at my cousin, he's broke, don't do shit.
That's peanuts so I'm afraid the total must be way higher. Besides, you need to subtract license fees and other fees from the profit (like payment fees). They appeared to have at least a valid WHCMS license and while ColoCrossing is cheap, it's still costing them money to have servers with them. And generally speaking most people will try and get a refund.
Yes, he had to leave his makeshift office because a python decided to pay a visit to check on his colon from under, relying on the element of surprise.
Ah well, I feel bad for those that were scammed, i don't think there is a single thing we can do about it, they are clearly to well practiced at this multi small scale scam now.
We just need to strongly encourage people when they get scammed to change back even for $2
Short of a database leek, I don't see anyone finding a smoking gun.
@Francisco said: Chris Miller had the same experience when he ran UrPad
I sold URPad in early 2014.. and I am still getting spam and DMCA complaints for CC ranges, I gave up complaining about it after my first few times tagging Biloh on LET where he said he took care of it.
@Francisco said: Chris Miller had the same experience when he ran UrPad
I sold URPad in early 2014.. and I am still getting spam and DMCA complaints for CC ranges, I gave up complaining about it after my first few times tagging Biloh on LET where he said he took care of it.
You should find his mother... AND PUNCH HER RIGHT IN THE MOUTH!
@Francisco said: Chris Miller had the same experience when he ran UrPad
I sold URPad in early 2014.. and I am still getting spam and DMCA complaints for CC ranges, I gave up complaining about it after my first few times tagging Biloh on LET where he said he took care of it.
You should find his mother... AND PUNCH HER RIGHT IN THE MOUTH!
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Imma start the guesstimation game
25 "hosts"
100 customers per host
$10 scammed from each customer
would total $25,000 ...
doesn't really seem worth it to me, but I'm more about the long game I suppose
bump up the number of customers per host by a factor of 10 or so and then it starts to get more interesting
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I read this as "printers" the first time around, and now I can't not picture Chris filling the bathroom full of pilfered printers before loading them into the back of an unmarked white van.
My pronouns are like/subscribe.
If you are operating out of a bathroom, USD 25,000 can take you quite far.
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(Just to give some idea about relative scale of drops in the bucket ... or plops in the bucket, ammirite?)
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Based on the current internet population, if they managed to sucker ten bucks each from 0.0001% of the population, they are counting millions.
I would say ethically they are just one rung above robbing robbing unlicensed hoes.
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Something like this...
Squats are the new Push-ups
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Sit on my ass on the toilet seat
Squats are the new Push-ups
That's peanuts so I'm afraid the total must be way higher. Besides, you need to subtract license fees and other fees from the profit (like payment fees). They appeared to have at least a valid WHCMS license and while ColoCrossing is cheap, it's still costing them money to have servers with them. And generally speaking most people will try and get a refund.
Hey Chris, What's Happening...
I want you to come in on Saturday and send those emails... and if you could shut down those shady hosting sites on Monday that would be great....
Yeah!
Squats are the new Push-ups
seems he is not in the office
probably in need of this
Yes, he had to leave his makeshift office because a python decided to pay a visit to check on his colon from under, relying on the element of surprise.
well, from what I understand he was caught doing reverse push-ups in the cucumber garden
such evocative imagery lol
@Solaire - I suppose without having access to the accounting ledgers we might still constrain our estimations / educated guesswork a bit based on:
Length of time acquiring customers
Number of IP addresses (for VPS plans, less useful to estimate shared hosting though)
What else ...?
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Ah well, I feel bad for those that were scammed, i don't think there is a single thing we can do about it, they are clearly to well practiced at this multi small scale scam now.
We just need to strongly encourage people when they get scammed to change back even for $2
Short of a database leek, I don't see anyone finding a smoking gun.
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@AnthonySmith the smoking gun is Chris' colon, you know why, all that friction
@uptime i want the reward, i found the smoking gun!
@tgl ... the proof is in the pudding I guess?
yuck
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i saw brown smoke coming out
I sold URPad in early 2014.. and I am still getting spam and DMCA complaints for CC ranges, I gave up complaining about it after my first few times tagging Biloh on LET where he said he took care of it.
Some people have no morals & for sure do not believe in ethics
That guy Biloh is one of those
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You should find his mother... AND PUNCH HER RIGHT IN THE MOUTH!
Its the only reasonable option remaining.
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Which of her three heads do you aim for?
My pronouns are like/subscribe.
It is no more, party is over.
the end is nigh! 
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My monitors say that!
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Looks like shit finally blew out.
Francisco
the shit left the colon
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