Backups - what are your ingredients?

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  • @FlamingSpaceJunk said:
    How is burp? I've come across it, but there is always a reason it always gets eliminated which I don't remember.

    Have you looked at Restic? It's basically Borg except in Go instead of Python. There might be some more differences, but I haven't noticed/missed any after switching.

    burp is ok, not a ton of development, but not orphaned (one-man show, coming out of his master's thesis). I moved to it (from BackupPC, if memory serves me) mostly because of the Windows VSS support, and haven't looked in detail at other options since then. It's automated and just works, so I don't think much about it. I've used it to restore select files and whole disks on occasion.

    I'll take a look at restic, thanks! I had not heard it described as borg in Go before; I understood they did incrementals differently.

  • @seanho said:
    I'll take a look at restic, thanks! I had not heard it described as borg in Go before; I understood they did incrementals differently.

    You know, roughly the same. :smile: I haven't looked at the exact details of each one, but feature wise, they work similarly.

  • DanielDaniel OG
    edited May 2020

    I use Borgbackup via Backupninja, and take daily backups. I've been using backupninja for maybe 10 years now... It's basically a shell script to help with automating backups. Handles a bunch of things like dumping MySQL databases. Works pretty well for me. I used to use it with Duplicity but switched to Borg a year or two ago.

    Both backupninja and borgbackup are available in the standard Debian repos.

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  • It all depends on the requirements.

    For personal stuff and VPS's it's a mix of tar, rsync and restic. Lately, I've moved more and more towards restic since I've found it to be easy, reliable and powerful. It's easy to script and automate and also free.
    In bigger environments with hyper-v and vm-ware I rely on Acronis and/or Veeam. Personally I prefer Acronis and I'm also fully certified in it, but I keep Veeam in the toolbelt due to the marketshare.
    Sometimes you have to use whatever the storage or environment demands, such as EMC and similar giants, but I usually find their solutions cumbersome and ineffective.

  • verjinverjin OG
    edited May 2020

    @Daniel I am searching for guide to setup borgbackup via backupninja but unable to find proper one. Do have one? And is it really cost $40/m https://backup.ninja/pricing?

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  • edited May 2020

    @verjin said:
    @Daniel I am searching for guide to setup borgbackup via backupninja but unable to find proper one. Do have one? And is it really cost $40/m https://backup.ninja/pricing?

    The site for backupninja is: https://0xacab.org/riseuplabs/backupninja

    The site that you refer to has nothing to do with backupninja. The product on that site is Backup Ninja, a commercial product, not to mention misleadingly named given that (as far as I can tell) backupninja is much older than Backup Ninja

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    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • Personal infra: each server executes a daily restic backup in the morning to a Hetzner dedicated server with disks in RAID1, and also a daily borg backup to a Online.net dedicated server. Using the 2 technologies allows for a margin of error in case I mess up a script or a configuration. Backups are in push mode.
    Another family member has a Windows 10 laptop which performs a daily backup with Duplicati to one of my Wishosting VPS.

    Work infra: I didn't have the luxury of starting clean, so I have been able to set up only a portion of the backups I want to have in the end. There are quite a bit of Docker containers scheduled with Marathon, so I back up at the application level instead of the server level; the backup software is still restic, sending data to S3.

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  • edited May 2020

    @Daniel said:

    did any notice the domain name in Daniel's footer ... wow,

  • @ehab said: did any notice the domain name in Daniel's footer

    I've got https://d.ls/ too! haha

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  • @Daniel said:

    your the man .... pretty impressive .... one day they might provide you with a nice car :)

    best wishes
    ehab

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    @ehab said:
    your the man .... pretty impressive .... one day they might provide you with a nice car :)

    Facebook would never allow it. He might escape.

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  • @AnthonySmith now that we have a list of ingredients, maybe I should ask... what's cooking?

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    @vyas said:
    @AnthonySmith now that we have a list of ingredients, maybe I should ask... what's cooking?

    A full course meal :)

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  • WSSWSS OGRetired

    @AnthonySmith said:

    @vyas said:
    @AnthonySmith now that we have a list of ingredients, maybe I should ask... what's cooking?

    A full course meal :)

    Soupy Gruel. Lovely.

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  • Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

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  • @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Certified ACE and ABE here, glad to hear Acronis works for you. :)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

  • @Ympker said:

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

    Probably the service provider licensing, they have lots of licensing options and integrates well with cpanel, whmcs and most others.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited May 2020

    @rcy026 said:

    @Ympker said:

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

    Probably the service provider licensing, they have lots of licensing options and integrates well with cpanel, whmcs and most others.

    Ahh.. gotcha. Yeah I was kinda overwhelmed by the many licenses, I guess.

  • @Ympker said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @Ympker said:

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

    Probably the service provider licensing, they have lots of licensing options and integrates well with cpanel, whmcs and most others.

    Ahh.. gotcha. Yeah I was kinda overwhelmed by the many licenses, I guess.

    I don't blame you, at first glance Acronis can look like a bit of a mess, but its really just one product with different packaging/licensing.
    Once you get to know their AnyData Engine then you can use all of their products, the rest is just branding.

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  • @Ympker said:

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

    Definitely not that! Just backing up the complete hardware. Between the free backup VM I offer and many other free option that is out there, plus at my price point, I really hope no one is expecting free nightly backup of their individual VM's.

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  • @rcy026 said:

    @Ympker said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @Ympker said:

    @seriesn said:
    Just finished setting up acronis across all our VM and pool nodes. This bad boy is prem!!

    Are you using this then? https://www.acronis.com/en-eu/business/backup/kvm/

    Starts from 729€/year what - without wanting to downplay your services or anything - appears to be a bit costly for a service offering LE pricing. Or are you using the Personal True Image version (50-60€/year)?

    Probably the service provider licensing, they have lots of licensing options and integrates well with cpanel, whmcs and most others.

    Ahh.. gotcha. Yeah I was kinda overwhelmed by the many licenses, I guess.

    I don't blame you, at first glance Acronis can look like a bit of a mess, but its really just one product with different packaging/licensing.
    Once you get to know their AnyData Engine then you can use all of their products, the rest is just branding.

    Without my man @Jord I would have been lost too. So many options.

  • @seriesn said: I really hope no one is expecting free nightly backup of their individual VM's.

    What? I feel cheated :tongue:

  • @beagle said:

    @seriesn said: I really hope no one is expecting free nightly backup of their individual VM's.

    What? I feel cheated :tongue:

    There is always a first time for everything honey ;)

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