Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new (Debian) stable?

cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
edited March 31 in Industry News

is that right?

which provider will have it on their ISO list first?

https://repo.almalinux.org/almalinux/8/isos/x86_64/

I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

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  • Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new Debian?

    is that right?

    With all due respect, no.

    At best, Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @angstrom said:

    Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new Debian?

    is that right?

    With all due respect, no.

    At best, Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS.

    your right, my bad. title edited.

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  • alwyzonalwyzon Hosting Provider

    I don‘t think anybody would jump from Debian to AlmaLinux. If you are used to the Debian/Ubuntu way of doing things, you don‘t just start doing stuff the RHEL way. Also, many went with CentOS due to it‘s reputation of reliability and long-term support schedules. Any new distribution might first need to proof itself before it could step into the big footsteps of CentOS. But, as the project is backed by CloudLinux, it might actually stand a good chance in doing that.

    — Michael

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  • AbdullahAbdullah Hosting ProviderOG

    I added Almalinux to the iso list this morning.

    but yea, not replacing debian.

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  • @cybertech said:

    @angstrom said:

    Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new Debian?

    is that right?

    With all due respect, no.

    At best, Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS.

    your right, my bad. title edited.

    But it's also not the new Debian stable! :o

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @angstrom said:

    @cybertech said:

    @angstrom said:

    Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new Debian?

    is that right?

    With all due respect, no.

    At best, Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS.

    your right, my bad. title edited.

    But it's also not the new Debian stable! :o

    Centos stream > RHEL > Almalinux. won't it be like Debian grade stable then?

    :p

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • edited March 31

    @cybertech said:

    @angstrom said:

    @cybertech said:

    @angstrom said:

    Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new Debian?

    is that right?

    With all due respect, no.

    At best, Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS.

    your right, my bad. title edited.

    But it's also not the new Debian stable! :o

    Centos stream > RHEL > Almalinux. won't it be like Debian grade stable then?

    :p

    If the question is

    Almalinux replaces CentOS (stream) as the new (Debian) stable?

    then I would still say (as I said above) that the answer is no and that

    Almalinux replaces CentOS as the new CentOS

    is the right answer.

    Think about it: the only thing that needs to be replaced is CentOS (not CentOS stream). Debian (stable or not) doesn't need to be replaced. So if we replace CentOS, we get a new CentOS. :)

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • TrKTrK
    edited March 31

    I am not too sure about alma linux as around half of my servers are equipped with CentOS7 but when the search for CentOS alternative started i did come across almalinux and ofcourse Oracle Linux and Rocky(WIP). I won't be using almalinux any time soon unless ofcourse i am forced to, then there is oracle linux it's just "rebranded redhat linux" as per oracle and i would really love to test it out if it really is, tbh i am waiting for rocky linux to make debut and see if its the one i will end up going with, only future will tell.

    Regards

    Edit: i just rechecked rocky forums and according to their march update they will have a release candidate by April 30 let's see if it would another centOS or a new Rocky Linux.

    Active lurker nothing more nothing less, want to discuss something? i am all ears!

  • vyasvyas OGContent Writer

    waiting for rocky linux

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  • @TrK said: then there is oracle linux it's just "rebranded redhat linux" as per oracle and i would really love to test it out if it really is

    For the most part it is with a few caveats. 1) Install tries to put you on their Oracle Unbreakable kernel by default instead of the Red Hat compatible. UEK versioning doesn't stay stable per major version. 2) Every once in a rare while they'll change the default behavior of some random package. I think last time I saw it was multipath back on OEL6. It changed the filtering somehow - possibly even for the better - but it broke a couple of our scripts.

  • @vyas said:

    waiting for rocky linux

    Can I ask the reasons to wait for Rocky Linux over AlmaLinux?

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  • SpeedBusSpeedBus Hosting ProviderOG

    On the other hand -- now that it's been a couple of months since this CentOS 8 <> Stream change,

    Has anyone shifted over to Steam? anything that you see "quite different" so far ? I spun up a VM with CentOS 8 Stream earlier today and it more or less felt the same CentOS to me (I just installed the basic stuff like apache, php, mariadb to see what versions it comes with by default).

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